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I'm not cutting any of this, sorry. And even if you normally skip over my posts, please read this one.
ZEITGEIST
Part one: Religion.
Astrotheological literary hybrid. Remember that phrase.
If you are a Christian, it will shake the foundation of your faith. Can you handle that? Isn't it better to know the truth--to have knowledge--than to be in the dark?
And if you're a snarky pagan-sometimes-atheist with a penchant for codes and decoding them, like me, then part I of this movie is orgasmic.
These are things that I've been on the verge of halfway understanding since around college. This movie pulls them all together and puts them out there in total coherency. It will give you frigging chills. What else can I say? It's worth every single second.
See now, I've always thought that Jesus actually did exist. I didn't believe in his divinity, but I did believe in his humanity: the fact that there was a historical figure who preached certain things and who was more of a political activist than a Messiah. But this movie pretty much proves that even as a historical figure, Jesus didn't even exist. O_O
Part two: War, 9-11.
It is not a matter of debate. If some people have the bad taste to raise the question of the TRUTH of the sacred story, the keepers of 'the faith' do not entire into debate with them. They ignore them, or denounce them as blasphemers. TRUE STORY.
I know I've heard stuff like this before and so have many of you. I know I can get really into conspiracy theories. I know that gets labeled as being really wacky. But honestly, I'd rather be labeled as wacky and unpatriotic (PLEASE! LABEL ME AS UNPATRIOTIC!) rather than not look at what is right in front of my goddamn face! This is all stuff I have heard before. I've just never heard it so coherently.
I know that this movie is cleverly edited to prove a point; I get that, I do. But just keep trying to figure out why: "There was a secondary explosion." "The Carlyle group."
No seats. No luggage. No bodies. Nothing but bricks and limestone. "What kind of fire can vaporize aluminum and tempered steal, and yet leave human bodies intact?" When you're hearing from the designers and builders of the WTC buildings, people, it gets kinda obvious!
I was telling my Mom about this and she asked, "But why? Why would the American government do something like that?"
I only wonder if anyone asked why Hitler and the Nazis would, either.
Part III is about the Central Bank pulling all the strings. This whole stuff about "legal tender" no longer being backed by gold is something I knew but never quite understood till this came along, too. And that Federal Income tax is actually unconstitutional, that's something else I've held forth about over the years, most people thinking I was crazy. There is no law in existence that requires you to pay income tax, how about that? There's something I didn't know.
Then it goes on to demonstrate how war is profitable for the people pulling the strings (the central bank,) and why America gets into wars that have nothing to do with them, and goes so far as to, yanno stage epic events in order to start them. This begins with the Lusitania, believe it or not. THen it goes into WWII and how that began... or rather how it didn't, because check this out: "The question was how should we maneuver them into firing the first shot? It was desirable to make sure the Japanese be the to do this so that there should remain no doubt as to who were the aggressors." Nov. 25th 1941, Henry Stimson, Secretary of War. And here's something I didn't know either: The Rockefellers actually funded the Nazis and made oil for them. Hello!
And check this out, another Nazi money laundering bank, who also funded Hitler's rise to power? As in, the bank was exposed and seized? The Union Banking Corp. of NYC. Who was the director of and vice president of that bank> Prescott Bush. W.'s grandfather.
Then it goes into Vietnam and how the war was never meant to be won, just sustained for its profits.
And here we are today, at war again, this time over 9-11.
Hitler used this same tactic, attacking his own base and then taking away civil liberties, small at first, in the name of "homeland security."
This is how empires are created: my brainwashing and manipulation. I mean, throughout the ages.
North American Union? WTF? I know that I've never heard of it, have you? A new currency called the Amero? Have you heard of it? I hadn't either. I wonder why not.
Last night I asked if religion was an opiate for the masses, or an opiate of the masses, and I unwisely decided on of. I take that back. It is an opiate for the masses, of a select few.
RFID TRACKING CHIP in all passports. What do you think comes next?
What can I do? Probably not much in the grand scheme of things. But one thing I will not do is sit there and eat everything the people in power try to shovel down my throat. You can deny this stuff all you want if that helps you sleep better at night. Water it down or make it simple so that you can live--in fear of "terrorism" and "the enemy" perhaps--but not in total anger. Well, I'd rather have the anger than the fear, thanks.
Most of all I'd rather live with my eyes open. At least I know.
This is the kind of movie that should change the world, but won't. Because people believe what they want to believe. You feel me?
Live with your eyes open. Please please please, for your life: watch it from beginning to the end. All the way through. WATCH IT. SPREAD IT AROUND.
The activism page.
Can you tell how turned on and totally afraid I am at the same time?
ZEITGEIST
Part one: Religion.
Astrotheological literary hybrid. Remember that phrase.
If you are a Christian, it will shake the foundation of your faith. Can you handle that? Isn't it better to know the truth--to have knowledge--than to be in the dark?
And if you're a snarky pagan-sometimes-atheist with a penchant for codes and decoding them, like me, then part I of this movie is orgasmic.
These are things that I've been on the verge of halfway understanding since around college. This movie pulls them all together and puts them out there in total coherency. It will give you frigging chills. What else can I say? It's worth every single second.
See now, I've always thought that Jesus actually did exist. I didn't believe in his divinity, but I did believe in his humanity: the fact that there was a historical figure who preached certain things and who was more of a political activist than a Messiah. But this movie pretty much proves that even as a historical figure, Jesus didn't even exist. O_O
Part two: War, 9-11.
It is not a matter of debate. If some people have the bad taste to raise the question of the TRUTH of the sacred story, the keepers of 'the faith' do not entire into debate with them. They ignore them, or denounce them as blasphemers. TRUE STORY.
I know I've heard stuff like this before and so have many of you. I know I can get really into conspiracy theories. I know that gets labeled as being really wacky. But honestly, I'd rather be labeled as wacky and unpatriotic (PLEASE! LABEL ME AS UNPATRIOTIC!) rather than not look at what is right in front of my goddamn face! This is all stuff I have heard before. I've just never heard it so coherently.
I know that this movie is cleverly edited to prove a point; I get that, I do. But just keep trying to figure out why: "There was a secondary explosion." "The Carlyle group."
No seats. No luggage. No bodies. Nothing but bricks and limestone. "What kind of fire can vaporize aluminum and tempered steal, and yet leave human bodies intact?" When you're hearing from the designers and builders of the WTC buildings, people, it gets kinda obvious!
I was telling my Mom about this and she asked, "But why? Why would the American government do something like that?"
I only wonder if anyone asked why Hitler and the Nazis would, either.
Part III is about the Central Bank pulling all the strings. This whole stuff about "legal tender" no longer being backed by gold is something I knew but never quite understood till this came along, too. And that Federal Income tax is actually unconstitutional, that's something else I've held forth about over the years, most people thinking I was crazy. There is no law in existence that requires you to pay income tax, how about that? There's something I didn't know.
Then it goes on to demonstrate how war is profitable for the people pulling the strings (the central bank,) and why America gets into wars that have nothing to do with them, and goes so far as to, yanno stage epic events in order to start them. This begins with the Lusitania, believe it or not. THen it goes into WWII and how that began... or rather how it didn't, because check this out: "The question was how should we maneuver them into firing the first shot? It was desirable to make sure the Japanese be the to do this so that there should remain no doubt as to who were the aggressors." Nov. 25th 1941, Henry Stimson, Secretary of War. And here's something I didn't know either: The Rockefellers actually funded the Nazis and made oil for them. Hello!
And check this out, another Nazi money laundering bank, who also funded Hitler's rise to power? As in, the bank was exposed and seized? The Union Banking Corp. of NYC. Who was the director of and vice president of that bank> Prescott Bush. W.'s grandfather.
Then it goes into Vietnam and how the war was never meant to be won, just sustained for its profits.
And here we are today, at war again, this time over 9-11.
Hitler used this same tactic, attacking his own base and then taking away civil liberties, small at first, in the name of "homeland security."
This is how empires are created: my brainwashing and manipulation. I mean, throughout the ages.
North American Union? WTF? I know that I've never heard of it, have you? A new currency called the Amero? Have you heard of it? I hadn't either. I wonder why not.
Last night I asked if religion was an opiate for the masses, or an opiate of the masses, and I unwisely decided on of. I take that back. It is an opiate for the masses, of a select few.
RFID TRACKING CHIP in all passports. What do you think comes next?
What can I do? Probably not much in the grand scheme of things. But one thing I will not do is sit there and eat everything the people in power try to shovel down my throat. You can deny this stuff all you want if that helps you sleep better at night. Water it down or make it simple so that you can live--in fear of "terrorism" and "the enemy" perhaps--but not in total anger. Well, I'd rather have the anger than the fear, thanks.
Most of all I'd rather live with my eyes open. At least I know.
This is the kind of movie that should change the world, but won't. Because people believe what they want to believe. You feel me?
Live with your eyes open. Please please please, for your life: watch it from beginning to the end. All the way through. WATCH IT. SPREAD IT AROUND.
The activism page.
Can you tell how turned on and totally afraid I am at the same time?
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Date: 2007-12-17 04:31 am (UTC)Such "hyper-technicalities" have been rejected because differences in capitalization and punctuation only matter if it alters the fundamental text of the Sixteenth Amendment, and a state's entry into the Union does not turn on official proclamations but upon that state ratifying a constitution and submitting it to Congress.
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Date: 2007-12-17 06:43 am (UTC)Furthermore, what ever happened to respecting the beliefs of others if they don't coincide with yours? Seriously, not every Christian is a psycho nut-job like Pat Robertson.
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Date: 2007-12-17 07:11 am (UTC)You know, I've had experience in government shite, and it is hard for me to believe that the 9/11 conspiracy is true, if only because the g'vnt I know is so incompetent and no one knows how to keep their mouths shut, at all. But I always did wonder why the buildings fell like they did, and the lack of wreckage. And that's before taking Physics. All the coincidences, though, with the drills, and overlooking shit. At the very least, it may not wholly convince me, but it does make me wonder. A lot.
Thanks for freaking me out! (and I mean that sincerely, I love a good mind fuck ;D)
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Date: 2007-12-17 04:04 pm (UTC)Part I: Loved it! My inner astronomer was captivated. I knew the Old Testament was a chimera of rip-offs of various mythologies, but the New Testament stuff as well? Making more sense the more I think about it.
Part II: I was kinda only half paying attention to this part (it was a long movie! I had stuff to paint!) as most of the 9/11 conspiracy stuff I'd encountered before. What I'd never heard before though, was a really good reason as to why that could satisfy me, and it was Part II and III put together that closed it.
Part III: Oh, cool.
All in all, I think I want to double-check some of the historical/mythological facts; Money and power does corrupt; absolute corruption does exist; and a complicit mass media? Check. None of what the movie posits is unrealistic, but it does base its arguments on facts that are/were new to me. My mind is open; but I don't want to be taken in by anything that may be inaccurate.
With all that said though, I was glad to watch it. Thanks for the link. :) Had a lively convo with my dad about it; he's already convinced there are EVIL people controlling the world.
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Date: 2007-12-17 07:33 pm (UTC)In part I, I've already seen most of the relationships between religions. It's well known among the scholars of religion that religions do often borrow from each other, that things were shared. This is common knowledge, and I don't find much of interest there.
In part II I find a lot of things questionable. They make several extraordinary claims without providing evidence, including several claims of collusion by US officials, without releasing exact information. They recycle the old and tired free fall argument, postulate the existence of a new extremely advanced form of non-chemical explosive (technology currently a hundred years beyond us) to provide the kick, and make the bad assumption that everything failed at once. They also postulate new, intense-stealth units capable of secretly wiring a building for demolitions (since nobody saw anything), and ignore the fact that none of the demolitions experts noticed anything, nor did the explosion appear on the seismograph data. The evidence for the 1993 bombing is relatively scant, the conspiracies required, involving the careful manipulation of both the Michigan Militia types and the Islamic terror network are never justified, and never explained. It's just assumed that this magic conspiracy has that much power.
Moreover, they break the fundamental rule of real strategy, which is simplicity. They never say why people would bother rigging a bunch of buildings to fall, when a false flag operation would simply have slammed a pair of planes into skyscrapers and watched them fall (it's well known they couldn't have survived that). They never explain why al Qaeda, who has the ability and connections to do something like this, did not do so. They never say why most of the inhabitants of the towers and the emergency response units were in on the scheme, nor why all the experts are likewise in on it.
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