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la_belle_laide ([personal profile] la_belle_laide) wrote2006-08-27 03:26 pm
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More fun from ~Winter Rose!!111~

Superfun! Since Rose has responded to my allegations about her in a vague way, and her dithering, silly husband has outright said that I made this stuff up about her, I thought I should, you know QFT where applicable.

Let's see, what did I say in that last post? That Rose made a mockery of Native Americans by claiming to be descended from a Cherokee Princess. Hey, what's this? And yep, I posted about it on the NDN comm. Lots of laughs there.

That Rose said she thought it would be "romantic" to get tuberculosis.
Why, look! And in case she deletes it, this was her response to the question "Top five diseases you would most like to contract (given that you could get better)":
2. Consumption {So Romantic!}
The actual reply is right here.

That she always goes on about her hair color, first saying that it's natural and then later saying that she uses Clairol, which is tested on animals, and that I called her on it once? Sadly, she has deleted that stuff. You know, people saying things in her LJ that aren't along the lines of "OMG you are so FAE!!!!1111" never goes over well.

That she's greedy, grasping, vain, stupid and all the rest, well, those are just opinions. As some very smart person posted in GAFF, "Rose, Rose, this isn't sweet and it's synergy -- this is trying to get a free ride. Sorry. It's nice that you has people who are generous enough to give you money, but you are not entitled to a free honeymoon more than anyone else.

Aren't true princesses supposed to have...dignity?

I do wonder if she realizes that for every sugar-free double shot vanilla strawberry caramel fudge iced tea mocha frappuccino she cuts out of her budget, that at least four less people would have to give her money."


As for the real issue: Do the charity meme. Donate!

ETA: I want to thank all of you who responded, in email, comments, or fora, for your support and agreement. But more than that, thanks to all of you who have been inspired to donate to charity--or in many cases, to donate more than you usually would have. Rose started this whole thing with her ridiculousness and greed. I get mad about stuff like that, so I want to thank all of you for helping me turn it into something helpful to others. ^_^

ETA Tristan proposes a compromise. While I still don't hold with the idea of begging being any kind of dignified, anything that will get $2500 to charity is a good thing. Making a difference is a good thing. OTOH, it also makes one wonder: If they don't have the money to go to Ireland and have to go a-begging for it, then where is the money for charity going to come from? Or will it be like a slow trickle ... like over ten years or so? And in the meantime, they'll just light some candles and hope that other people's problems will go away?

Huh, and Rose is still deleting my comments, which actually had very little to do with her. Hmm.

[identity profile] strawbrrysprite.livejournal.com 2006-08-29 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
All right...I made my way over here from Rose's lj, and I would just like to say, out of TOTALLY NEUTRAL CURIOSITY, that while I can see where you are coming from, if you really want your opinion to be heard why go about it in such a blatantly offensive, inflammatory manner? I don't agree or disagree with her request for money, it's simply something that she did that, like many other things posted in her journal, completely baffles me. However, I don't understand why you claim to "only read her journal for laughs" but then dedicate multiple entries to her in your livejournal, and post 30+ comments bickering over opinions you can't change.

Sorry if any of that was offensive, as that's not how I intended it to come across. My main point is that there are MANY, MANY people who will delete comments from people when a large majority of them are just insulting with very little discussion factor, and I'm just curious if you are that adamant about ALL of your opinions, or merely when you're fighting with Rose.

[identity profile] shonagonchan.livejournal.com 2006-08-29 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
why you claim to "only read her journal for laughs" but then dedicate multiple entries to her in your livejournal, and post 30+ comments bickering over opinions you can't change.

That's a fair question. If you read back, you'll see that I listed a few reasons why I read Rose's journal, the primary being for laughs. Secondly, her idiocy makes me feel better about myself. We all do stupid and selfish things sometimes, and I certainly fill my quota. Sometimes it's good to be able to say, "At least I'm not as bad as that person." But I also did make a point of saying that once in a while she will do something so appalling that it actually gets me angry.

I know I'm not going to change anyone's opinion, but rarely do I let pass the opportunity to bitchslap certain people. ;)

My main point is that there are MANY, MANY people who will delete comments from people when a large majority of them are just insulting with very little discussion factor, and I'm just curious if you are that adamant about ALL of your opinions, or merely when you're fighting with Rose.</i? I have strong opinions on everything, pretty much, and in some cases I just can't see the "let's disagree civilly," when something is going on that I think is entirely wrong, oppressive etc, or crazy like whoa. Everyone has hot buttons. Sexism, racism, homophobia, etc. Hypocrisy is another one of mine, and Rose could fill the Pacific with hers.

[identity profile] strawbrrysprite.livejournal.com 2006-08-29 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh...well, again, total neutrality here, but making rude and offensive comments SOLEY to be rude and offensive seems, to me, like a waste of time and energy. I won't try and be a hypocrite and claim that I've never done it, becuase I have, but I usually find in the end it caused me more drama and annoyance than they were worth.

While you may see Rose as stupid, weak, frivolous, hopelessly-behind-the-times, etc., I DO know that when she is presented with a netural, intelligent, non-offensive arguement she will listen to it and try to respond in an equally neutral, intelligent, and non-offensive manner. It just seems (in my opinion, of course) that the comments you've made haven't been aimed at helping charities or trying to solidly discredit Rose's view, but rather it seems like her asking for honeymoon money was an excuse for you to pounce on her because you disagree with her personality. While you are entitled to your own views and opinions, I guess what I don't understand is why you would go out of your way to attack Rose, instead of making a direct and legitimate argument against whatever it is that you disagree with.

[identity profile] shonagonchan.livejournal.com 2006-08-30 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Oh...well, again, total neutrality here, but making rude and offensive comments SOLEY to be rude and offensive seems, to me, like a waste of time and energy. I won't try and be a hypocrite and claim that I've never done it, becuase I have, but I usually find in the end it caused me more drama and annoyance than they were worth

Nah, it's good to blow off steam at the free-range rude. Hannibal Lecter ate them. I just point out their idiocy. ;)

While you are entitled to your own views and opinions, I guess what I don't understand is why you would go out of your way to attack Rose, instead of making a direct and legitimate argument against whatever it is that you disagree with.

I've actually tried that on numerous occasions, especially the first few times I had any sort of contact with her. Guess what? She deleted those comments. She always has, because she knows I come over from GAFF.

On the other hand, that's actually fine with me. I prefer it when I can see straight through someone. You can sugar a turd all you want, but when you squeeze it, it still stinks.

[identity profile] strawbrrysprite.livejournal.com 2006-08-31 03:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I suppose if she knows you come from a place where she's only made fun of, I can see why she'd have trouble being netural. Anyway, if this is what it takes to make you feel better about yourself...to each his own, I suppose :P